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Thursday, 9 January 2014

Death by toothpaste - How toxic is e liquid?

Us vapers need to be a bit careful with our e liquid. Don't try suicide, it seems useless for that!

All vapers should read this entertaining but serious post How Much Eliquid Does It Take to kill You? Essential Knowledge for All Vapers Thank you James Dunworth and your Ashtray Blog!

I couldn't find e liquid on the UK National Poison's Centre database, which doesn't mean it might not turn up there some time in the future. Fluoride is scary stuff, yet you can buy it in any shop and it is in more than just toothpaste! Its not there either - you have to register and log into a different website when you're in a panic and you need to know stuff  QUICKLY. You can phone. Wonder how quick that would be? They'd send you to A&E probably.

On toothpaste -

“WARNING: Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. If more than used for brushing is accidentally swallowed, get medical help or contact a poison-control center right away.”

Between 1990 and 1994, over 628 people, mostly children, were treated after ingesting too much fluoride-containing toothpaste. "While the outcomes were generally not serious," gastrointestinal symptoms appear to be the most common problem reported. In 2011, 21,513 incidents of exposure to tooth paste containing fluoride were reported to the National Poison Data System.

Symptoms (The New york Times)

Swallowing a large amount of regular toothpaste may cause stomach pain and possible intestinal blockage. These additional symptoms may occur when swallowing a large amount of toothpaste containing fluoride:

Difficulty breathing
Heart attack
Salty or soapy taste in the mouth
Slow heart rate

All Grannies like me are probably aware of how dangerous the world around us really is for children. and I found the list below interesting. I would have liked more information.  For REALLY DANGEROUS stuff you have to join Toxbase to find out real stuff. But we are allowed to know about Low Toxicity Substances. Nicotine is not covered for anonymous public information or fluoride either for that matter. But we all already know that nicotine KILLS smokers - the myth that was invented by Tobacco Control - must be a bit awkward now to find it's not true - yet doctors still believe it, and the public too!

Here is the list I found quite interesting -  was amazed to find Homeopathic preparations on the list because we are told they absolutely are completely useless - little sugar pills. Not on this list is antifreeze - but maybe it appears on Toxbase, which I'm not going to register for. Antifreeze poisons doggies and pussycats, hedgehogs and other little animals as they lap it up off the tar under our vehicles. But it is not in e liquid.

National Poisons Information Service UK Low Toxicity Substances
Health Protection Agency Second Edition 2012 Prepared by NPIS Cardiff on behalf
of the NPIS and HPA


African violet (Saintpaulia ionantha)



Carnation (Dianthus)

Christmas cactus (Schlumbergera bridgesii)


Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale)

Daisy (Bellis perennis)


Geranium (Pelargonium species)

Hawthorn (Crateagus monogyna)

Holly (Ilex aquifolium)

Honeysuckle (Lonicera species)


Marigold (Calendula officinalis)

Nasturtium (Tropaeolum majus)

Pansy (Viola tricolor)


Primrose (Primula vulgaris)

Rose (Rosa species)

Rowan (Sorbus aucuparia)

Snapdragon (Antirrhinum majus)

Spider plant (Chlorophytum comosum)

Star Gazer Lily (Lilium speciosum)

Violet (Viola tricolor)

Animal and Plant Food

Bird seed

Cat and dog food

Cut flower food

Fish food

House plant food (e.g. Phostrogen® and BabyBio®)



Antacids (e.g. Rennie®)

Aqueous cream

Calamine lotion

Cough sweets/lozenges

Emollients (e.g. Diprobase®, E45 Cream and


Evening primrose oil


Folic acid

Guaifenesin-only cough preparations

Hormone replacement therapy (HRT)

Homeopathic preparations (not herbal remedies)

Hydrocortisone cream


Nappy rash cream

Oral contraceptive pill

Petroleum jelly (e.g.Vaseline®)





Vitamins B, C and E

Zinc oxide cream

Witch hazel

In the Garden

Animal urine/faeces

Bird faeces


Dog and cat faeces (less than 2 weeks old)



Slugs, snails and worms

Small dead insects or spiders

Cosmetics and Toiletries

Baby wipes

Bubble bath*

Deodorant, non-aerosol

Hair conditioner/shampoo* (not insecticidal or medicated)

Liquid soap*

Moisturiser/hand cream/body lotion

Nail glue

Shaving foam

Shower gel*

Solid cosmetics (e.g. lipstick, ChapStick® and foundation)

Solid soap*

Suntan lotion and cream


Craft Items

Ball point pen ink

Blu Tack® and similar preparations


Children’s paints (including face, powder and poster)

Crayons (wax)

Crepe paper

Felt tip pen ink

Gel pen ink

Glue (water based or PVA)


Pencil lead (graphite)

Cleaning Products

Air freshener, non-aerosol (including plug-in)

Household liquid carpet cleaner*

Fabric conditioner (not concentrated) (less than 10% cationic surfactants)*

General household cleaning liquid

Washing up liquid* (notmachine dishwasher products)


Artificial sweeteners

Bubble liquid*


Chewing gum (nicotine - free)

Coal and artificial coal

Food packaging/sweet wrappers

Human urine/faeces

Indoor emulsion paint

Luminous glowsticks/necklaces

Mouldy or out-of-date food





Silver paper/foil

Silica gel (desiccant sachet)

Teething rings

Substances marked * may produce foam if ingested in large amounts. There is a small risk of aspiration into the lungs if vomiting occurs.

What to do:

A small glass of water (or milk or juice) may be given if there is mild gastrointestinal upset

You should consult TOXBASE® if considerable quantities are ingested or persisting or worrying symptoms are present

( or contact the NPIS on 08448920111 (24 hours)