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Monday, 20 January 2014

Obsequious twaddle by the TVECA

Thank you Clive for your constancy in the matter of e cigs.

Confused e-cigarette trade association supports e-cigarette regulation it opposes

"This is a letter sent to MEPs today in which an e-cigarette trade association displays its naivety and contempt for its customers, whilst not actually understanding the process it is involved in (2nd reading isn’t inevitable). Let me put a question to TVECA – all those things you list that you don’t like and make no sense… how are they going to change if the directive passes unchanged?"

Please read Clive's blog -  it got my blood up and my response is this following

This matter is so absolutely convoluted that few can actually figure anything out at all. It has embittered vapers like me, and engendered complete scorn for EU legislators AND MP'S here in UK who tell us we "should be pleased" with what we will be given! As I have said before, it all stems from the tunnel vision of Tobacco Control and the past skullduggery which they continue to practice currently.

Quote from the TVECA " We would like to use this opportunity to personally thank you for your efforts in reaching the trilogue agreement.
We are aware that certain stakeholders continue to lobby the Parliament to amend Article 18 or try to apply procedural tricks that would undermine the credibility of the agreement. Any amendment at this stage would automatically lead to a 2nd reading and mean an unhelpful step back. We believe this would be an insult to the co-legislators who have worked hard to reach this compromise

This is the most subservient, obsequious twaddle. It's about time people called a spade a spade. I think hand wringing in the face of blatant Tobacco Control ideology should stop and it should be exposed as the corrupt and vile thing it is.

Electronic cigarettes should have no place in the TCD.

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  1. Sounds like the TVECA was a plant by the opposition.

  2. E-Cigs DO HAVE a place in the overall anti tobacco agenda
    They divert massive profits from the DRUG Cartels promotion of their lucrative
    NRT campaign,
    backhanders to Doctors,Pharmacies,Health activists,Funded campaigns,Politicians
    Journalists and countless other carpetbaggers all grunting in the near empty trough
    of easy rewards.
    Will we see the angry vapers storming the citadels of corruption,the meeting places of liars and pedlars of half truths.
    No chance ,they will scurry down their grids to join the smoking rodents who caved in to stupidity and deception with hardly a murmur of protest.
    So,for the time being
    ..............Carry on whimpering.......................

    1. I was one of those smoking rodents. Most of my life occurred when smoking was a normal thing to do. When the anti smoking drive started, I think we thought that it was a few silly people who would go away if ignored. As their finances and power increased and they started forming into an Industry, their demands were so unbelievable, we simply didn't believe they could achieve what they wanted. Smokers were taken unawares. When the Ban struck, which was NOT the one we expected, we just ended up in a state of shock. I am STILL in that state of shock because I am an older person. If you are a noticing person. which you seem to be. you will have observed that smoking is never discussed in the media, or government. or anywhere because even discussing it is not sanctioned. it has been made invisible yet a quarter of us still do it. Where would you like us to murmur our protest? If the Tobacco Control Directive passes as it stands now, vapers will be similarly treated. Cowards? No. Gagged? Yes